I think we need more parents citing Genesis and Ezekiel and Psalms telling those dang schools to get those filthy Bibles out of reach of children! The gang rape and incest and prostitution and more rape just is more than a 13 year old boy with sisters should be required to stand!
I have read or listened to hundreds of books over my lifetime (48 yrs). Most of them followed heteronormative characters and story arcs. Not a single one of those books managed to turn me straight.
SUCK IT, Moms for Liberty, Huckabee Sanders, and all other fascist fucking fiends. YOU WILL LOSE
I am straight, but years ago read and thoroughly enjoyed Armistead Maupin's great "Tales of the City" series. Somehow it did not compel me to cruise the Castro for hot mansex!
But because Repubs are such small-minded bigots, they don't see that as a person having the willpower to resist indoctrination, they see it as you being SOOOO sinful and wicked and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay that you can't be saved. Y'know, because their bigotry will always be stronger than their stupidity. Congratulations on dodging the indoctrination, btw.
I believe you can get raspberry cordial on the PEI. No idea if there is alcohol in it, but friends that have visited definitely saw some for sale in the various Anne-themed museums. Some day....
But they have “proof” books can influence the reader — its why they are always insisting people read the Bible. And if that book was written by their god —as they believe— then these other books must have been written by satan …
Right-wingers' view of "rights" is that they have authority to order you not to do, say, or even believe whatever they find unacceptable. You, by contrast, don't have any authority to make them do, say, or believe anything. Their entire belief system is grounded in a demand for tyranny. Their ultimate goal? It think it must be a community that viciously polices its members for any sign of unorthodoxy, and horribly mistreats or even eliminates those who fail to comply. These are people who probably had access to a decent education when young, but they chose to reject it and can't see why anyone else wouldn't do the same.
OMG, mine too! I loved those trips to the library with my dad. Remember those Scholastic book orders? My mom let me buy whatever I wanted, no limit. I was lucky.
i read, and reread the nancy drew detective stories when i was 7 - and the librarian tried to stop me cos too young, and rereading wasn't permitted - my mum marched on down there and put a stop to that real quick
I loved those to tatters. My parents told the librarian I could read whatever I wanted;they would decide if it was too old or too evil or too something for me.
Proud to say that my parents - who were either very liberal or just raising feral children - never told me what I could or couldn't read. We were all reading books for grown-ups at early ages. The biggest insult I could hear from a teacher or librarian was "You're too young for that" or "You wouldn't understand that."
Me too! If I read something I couldn't understand my parents would answer quick questions, but usually would point me to a dictionary or encyclopedia or more books until I figured it out on my own.
I do not understand the whole"if my kid reads about gay people, or trans people, or Indigenous people, or really any people not like us, they will become that thing" mentality. Is it the fear their kid will develop empathy for anyone not like their family? Their kid will not grow up to hate the "right" people? Or is it an actual, literal fear that finding out gay people exists is how new gay people are made? Do they not understand how books work? Or do they understand too well how books work?
I mean, I grew up reading mysteries. Nancy Drew, Trixie Belden, stuff like that. Then I found my dad's Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie novels, and I devoured those. Despite my brain still developing while reading adult mysteries i never felt I needed to murder someone in an unusually convoluted manner or take drugs. I did learn to be leery of any small sleepy village I came across, though!
I went through the science fiction shelf in the children's department of the library. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that most of the books that I read were adult science fiction novels from the 30's, 40's, and 50's, deemed acceptable for kids because they didn't have any sex or swearing in them.
I was deeply offended as an eighth grader when a new city librarian stopped me from checking out Agatha Christie, whom I had been reading since about the fourth or fifth grade, because they were "adult" and not "children's" books. The other librarian vouched for both my reading abilities and my parents' permission, but it still stung. I got away with a lot of adult history or reference books for much the same reasoning sex, no swearing, it's educational! If only they knew I was researching topics I needed to know more about to better understand my equally safe mysteries, like poisons, or antique weapons, or the political and social climate of England between the wars, you know, normal stuff totally not weird kids read about.
Meanwhile, Sanders chuckles with delight as she sees her plans for this perforamance art to be slapped down so she can run on *that* for Guv 2.0 or for Prez fall into place.
Is the ruling a great thing in and of itself? Hells to the yeah.
But the Culture Wars are no longer the we win/they sulk of the quaint days of flag-burning - they are now a plan to win with voters by losing to the courts until you finally win in what the courts have become, and Dobbs shows that that can work.
I think we need more parents citing Genesis and Ezekiel and Psalms telling those dang schools to get those filthy Bibles out of reach of children! The gang rape and incest and prostitution and more rape just is more than a 13 year old boy with sisters should be required to stand!
I have read or listened to hundreds of books over my lifetime (48 yrs). Most of them followed heteronormative characters and story arcs. Not a single one of those books managed to turn me straight.
SUCK IT, Moms for Liberty, Huckabee Sanders, and all other fascist fucking fiends. YOU WILL LOSE
I am straight, but years ago read and thoroughly enjoyed Armistead Maupin's great "Tales of the City" series. Somehow it did not compel me to cruise the Castro for hot mansex!
But because Repubs are such small-minded bigots, they don't see that as a person having the willpower to resist indoctrination, they see it as you being SOOOO sinful and wicked and gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay that you can't be saved. Y'know, because their bigotry will always be stronger than their stupidity. Congratulations on dodging the indoctrination, btw.
books are a way to meet people you wouldn't normally see on the street outside your door - and a safe way to interact with them too
Having just concluded a literary visit to Mr Kurtz up the Congo, AMEN TO THAT.
"Arkansas Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders" - shudder every time I see that. She's a pimple on the ass of democracy.
In terms of your derogatory metaphor, I find her to be a centrist.
I believe you can get raspberry cordial on the PEI. No idea if there is alcohol in it, but friends that have visited definitely saw some for sale in the various Anne-themed museums. Some day....
https://www.thekitchenmagpie.com/raspberry-cordial-recipe/
Old joke.
-What's the difference between librarians and archivists?
-Gang signs.
Big upfist for the Bataille.
Isn't Chambord a raspberry cordial (if a cordial is like a liqueur...)?
Same folks that think that books can influence the reader are convinced that owning a shit-load of guns can't lead to deaths.
But they have “proof” books can influence the reader — its why they are always insisting people read the Bible. And if that book was written by their god —as they believe— then these other books must have been written by satan …
Right-wingers' view of "rights" is that they have authority to order you not to do, say, or even believe whatever they find unacceptable. You, by contrast, don't have any authority to make them do, say, or believe anything. Their entire belief system is grounded in a demand for tyranny. Their ultimate goal? It think it must be a community that viciously polices its members for any sign of unorthodoxy, and horribly mistreats or even eliminates those who fail to comply. These are people who probably had access to a decent education when young, but they chose to reject it and can't see why anyone else wouldn't do the same.
I think that you have it down fairly well.
Cueing Francis Wilhoit
Remember the day when parents were just happy their kids were reading something?
Reason #1 my dad would either buy me whatever books I wanted and/or my mom took me every week to the library.
OMG, mine too! I loved those trips to the library with my dad. Remember those Scholastic book orders? My mom let me buy whatever I wanted, no limit. I was lucky.
i read, and reread the nancy drew detective stories when i was 7 - and the librarian tried to stop me cos too young, and rereading wasn't permitted - my mum marched on down there and put a stop to that real quick
I loved those to tatters. My parents told the librarian I could read whatever I wanted;they would decide if it was too old or too evil or too something for me.
Are you me?
Proud to say that my parents - who were either very liberal or just raising feral children - never told me what I could or couldn't read. We were all reading books for grown-ups at early ages. The biggest insult I could hear from a teacher or librarian was "You're too young for that" or "You wouldn't understand that."
Me too! If I read something I couldn't understand my parents would answer quick questions, but usually would point me to a dictionary or encyclopedia or more books until I figured it out on my own.
"shockingly enough it is entirely possible to read a book and then not go out and do the thing you just read about in the book."
You’re talking about people who have spent decades trying to remake society into a combination of “Atlas Shrugged” and “The Handmaid’s Tale.”
Banning books and burning books. I seem to remember this happening before. The people that did this, did their name rhyme with Ratzi?
Also that bastard Savonarola. And I think it was a bishop that got the library at Alexandria trashed and another one that concerned Hypatia.
Tru-Christians (tm) burned comic books and rock 'n Roll records in the US.
Yahtzi!
I do not understand the whole"if my kid reads about gay people, or trans people, or Indigenous people, or really any people not like us, they will become that thing" mentality. Is it the fear their kid will develop empathy for anyone not like their family? Their kid will not grow up to hate the "right" people? Or is it an actual, literal fear that finding out gay people exists is how new gay people are made? Do they not understand how books work? Or do they understand too well how books work?
I mean, I grew up reading mysteries. Nancy Drew, Trixie Belden, stuff like that. Then I found my dad's Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie novels, and I devoured those. Despite my brain still developing while reading adult mysteries i never felt I needed to murder someone in an unusually convoluted manner or take drugs. I did learn to be leery of any small sleepy village I came across, though!
I dunno, I read VC Andrews and now I’m living in an attic and having children with my brother. (sarcasm obviously- Prince Albert is only a cousin)
I went through the science fiction shelf in the children's department of the library. It wasn't until I was an adult that I found out that most of the books that I read were adult science fiction novels from the 30's, 40's, and 50's, deemed acceptable for kids because they didn't have any sex or swearing in them.
I was deeply offended as an eighth grader when a new city librarian stopped me from checking out Agatha Christie, whom I had been reading since about the fourth or fifth grade, because they were "adult" and not "children's" books. The other librarian vouched for both my reading abilities and my parents' permission, but it still stung. I got away with a lot of adult history or reference books for much the same reasoning sex, no swearing, it's educational! If only they knew I was researching topics I needed to know more about to better understand my equally safe mysteries, like poisons, or antique weapons, or the political and social climate of England between the wars, you know, normal stuff totally not weird kids read about.
soooo staying out of Midsommer in the UK, just waaay too dangerous!
Do not get me started on St. Mary's Mead....or Great Slaughter, for that matter!!!
the nationwide push for illiteracy isn't over, though, and that's where it's at.
Moms for Nazis are still active all over the country.
Meanwhile, Sanders chuckles with delight as she sees her plans for this perforamance art to be slapped down so she can run on *that* for Guv 2.0 or for Prez fall into place.
Is the ruling a great thing in and of itself? Hells to the yeah.
But the Culture Wars are no longer the we win/they sulk of the quaint days of flag-burning - they are now a plan to win with voters by losing to the courts until you finally win in what the courts have become, and Dobbs shows that that can work.
All powder should still be kept dry...