Wow. So much to unpack with the "Disrupt the country, get Donald Trump out, get your man in there, Joe Biden, and then cover it up?”
Trump WAS the disruption, and that's not just the woke antifa mob talking—that was *his* whole pitch! Also, didn't Biden just piss off Xi by calling him a dictator? had a whole meeting to smooth things over, and then he immediately did it again? That's "their guy?"
I guess, like cruelty, cognitive dissonance is the point with these people.
The lab release theory is full of more holes than her brain. There were scientists who were originally inclined to give it some credit, but upon further review, have rejected it outright. It has essentially zero supporting evidence.
Yeah, sure, let's have us a 'debate", just like the ones between Creationists (whose evidence is a poorly translated, poorly copied edition of a 2,000 year old collection of folklore from a tribe of wandering goat herders who knew so little about the laws of physics that they recounted as fact that their invisible, supernatural master once stopped the earth's rotation and no catastrophes ensued- hell, they didn't even know that this planet rotates, they thought they lived on a fixed point in space and the sun, moon and all the stars rotated around US) and evolutionary scientists. Should we televise it, and have the folks at home vote on what the truth is by text? If the truth is whatever the most numbskulls profess to believe, why are exorcisms so thin on the ground? What about flying saucers?
This is Crackpot Nation, friends and dear hearts. Be afraid.
“Is there a chance that China released this virus on the country intentionally? Disrupt the country, get Donald Trump out, get your man in there, Joe Biden, and then cover it up?”
Where do you begin with this? In a sane world, any platform other than The Onion or Mad Magazine would suspend the speaker and offer mental health support. But let’s unpack it anyway. Might China have released a deadly virus on China to see if it would spread all over the world and because USA is part of the world, it would eventually reach us? Then, it would be very disruptive, and that would be harmful to Trump while also very helpful to Joe Biden’s odds of becoming potus, because Joe Biden is “their man.” Clearly, Biden’s policies have been very pro-China, and Biden constantly blows kisses at Xi. Oh, that’s Trump who loves Xi, and it’s Trump who is every communist or fascist dictator’s favorite pawn. It’s no wonder Republicans want to end public education. The stupider America is the better for Republicans.
Unfortunately China did not allow a few hundred US investigators in and give them full access to all the labs, all their records, and subpoena rights for all Chinese scientists and Chinese citizens in the area. Even then the actual source may not be identified, but that's what it would take to even start the investigation. It took months and a lot of legal privileges to identify the source of contaminated food in the US before they confirm it was probably from spinach harvested from a specific farm not properly washing the spinach. But they are not 100% sure about that. Or an even bigger probe into Tylenol that was tampered with and poisoned over 40 years ago. A crime that has yet to be solved and may never be. So positively pinpointing the source of Covid may never be confirmed, unless China is hiding something. But we cannot force Xi Jinping to testify at the CDC in Atlanta.
No scientific investigation, however thorough, however rigorous, will ever persuade the ivermectin-and-prayer crowd, they don't believe in science anyway, it is always quibbling with their starkly-colored cartoonish myths about the world and how it works. And sometimes scientists have the gall to question the God-given right of us to scoop every living, edible thing out of the oceans. to cut down every tree, to make every wild place into suburbia.
A person at a place where I work... school sec'ty... says it was a flu. We should not have had to stay home. A million did not die. False reporting (to the tune of 950,000?). I hate it when this happens. Now I have this person I have to deal with who is objectively a moron. I can't not think that about her. I just can't figure out the motivation for the denial... on this and climate change. What do I stand to gain by following the science, besides better health for myself and my Planet? Owning the Cons? I'm just not into it. I have a life to lead, and that's enough for me.
Man, I am so much more fortunate in my school secretary. We trade snide comments on everything from the superintendent's hygiene issues to DJT's stupidity.
Why isn’t anybody questioning the timing of Rosalyn Carter’s (possibly fake news) death, just when creaky old Joe Biden has another inconvenient birthday that he doesn’t want anyone to notice? HENNNNGH?
I see it all! China pretends to release COVID from an open market, fakes all the dead, as well as all the OTHER dead people in Yurrup, with Joe Biden waiting in the wings! Then they spring it on trump through Fowchee and take over. Dastardly.
How they ever fixed on quiet, earnest Anthony Fauci as the Antichrist will be a fascinating tale for future historians (if any) to investigate. It is like launching a smear campaign against the late Fred Rogers, claiming he was an infiltrator from the Communist International who was sent to spread the word to stop resisting the constant aggression of the USSR.
Exactly. Not to mention they must have known that Trump would fuck things up badly - what with him being a vain, incompetent buffoon and all.
Some other president might have actually come out on top after all that, with a robust strategy to protect his nation and whatnot. Not Trumpy boy though.
I was worried he'd do okay, then get reelected. That's what happens with incumbents. But I was appalled when he choked, cuz you know, more death. What an ass. Just think if we'd had a REAL president in there. Gore should have fought; Hillary should have gone to those states; Obama should have exposed the Russian BS; Bernie should have not even tried; Nor Jill. People should have voted.... et cētera. Damn. Things are not going my way.
I believe he was simply too stupid to see it as an opportunity. Not stupid as in low IQ, but stupid as in completely stuck in his own world, where right is wrong and wrong is right. And in this particular instance that made him fail to see that the "right thing to do" would have also benefited him.
What’s this “co-vid” thing Maria is telling us about? Sounds new and scary, and like Biden doesn’t wanna talk about it, but Maria DOES! In-peach! Obviously there is no sense analyzing this fart gas released by Fox News. Wingnuts grilled Dr. Fauci for like a solid year about the “made in a secret evil Wooooooo-Han lab to kill all Trump supporters and allow Biden to win (steal) the election” nonsense. Dr. Fauci did his best to try to limit casualties and contain the spread. It was nearly impossible to stop. Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for how childishly they dealt with the pandemic. First ignoring it and calling it a hoax. Then screaming about how any measures to protect people was tyranny. Then making up 97 lies about the vaccine and about Dr. Fauci, because they needed a human being to represent the pandemic so they could attack someone. Now they want to blame China, or Dems or Joe Biden or Tom Hanks for the virus they didn’t believe existed, and required no safeguards or vaccines. Just fuck off already.
Ta, Liz. She didn't seem all that idiotic before she went to Fox, but she probably was. The deceased roommate called her Bob Schieffer's tension reliever back then.
She sounds like a diseased Muppet when she speaks.
Poor thing. She still thinks she’s relevant.
Wow. So much to unpack with the "Disrupt the country, get Donald Trump out, get your man in there, Joe Biden, and then cover it up?”
Trump WAS the disruption, and that's not just the woke antifa mob talking—that was *his* whole pitch! Also, didn't Biden just piss off Xi by calling him a dictator? had a whole meeting to smooth things over, and then he immediately did it again? That's "their guy?"
I guess, like cruelty, cognitive dissonance is the point with these people.
How many people know that Joey Ramone (yes, THAT Joey Ramone) wrote a song about Maria Bartiromo... It did NOT age well. In fact, it's quite cringey.
https://youtu.be/AW5t2mhEj4Q?si=cOnqLAlmTKH0Qrvi
Maria also did not age well. Side effects of the brain worms, I guess.
The lab release theory is full of more holes than her brain. There were scientists who were originally inclined to give it some credit, but upon further review, have rejected it outright. It has essentially zero supporting evidence.
Yeah, sure, let's have us a 'debate", just like the ones between Creationists (whose evidence is a poorly translated, poorly copied edition of a 2,000 year old collection of folklore from a tribe of wandering goat herders who knew so little about the laws of physics that they recounted as fact that their invisible, supernatural master once stopped the earth's rotation and no catastrophes ensued- hell, they didn't even know that this planet rotates, they thought they lived on a fixed point in space and the sun, moon and all the stars rotated around US) and evolutionary scientists. Should we televise it, and have the folks at home vote on what the truth is by text? If the truth is whatever the most numbskulls profess to believe, why are exorcisms so thin on the ground? What about flying saucers?
This is Crackpot Nation, friends and dear hearts. Be afraid.
“Is there a chance that China released this virus on the country intentionally? Disrupt the country, get Donald Trump out, get your man in there, Joe Biden, and then cover it up?”
Where do you begin with this? In a sane world, any platform other than The Onion or Mad Magazine would suspend the speaker and offer mental health support. But let’s unpack it anyway. Might China have released a deadly virus on China to see if it would spread all over the world and because USA is part of the world, it would eventually reach us? Then, it would be very disruptive, and that would be harmful to Trump while also very helpful to Joe Biden’s odds of becoming potus, because Joe Biden is “their man.” Clearly, Biden’s policies have been very pro-China, and Biden constantly blows kisses at Xi. Oh, that’s Trump who loves Xi, and it’s Trump who is every communist or fascist dictator’s favorite pawn. It’s no wonder Republicans want to end public education. The stupider America is the better for Republicans.
Unfortunately China did not allow a few hundred US investigators in and give them full access to all the labs, all their records, and subpoena rights for all Chinese scientists and Chinese citizens in the area. Even then the actual source may not be identified, but that's what it would take to even start the investigation. It took months and a lot of legal privileges to identify the source of contaminated food in the US before they confirm it was probably from spinach harvested from a specific farm not properly washing the spinach. But they are not 100% sure about that. Or an even bigger probe into Tylenol that was tampered with and poisoned over 40 years ago. A crime that has yet to be solved and may never be. So positively pinpointing the source of Covid may never be confirmed, unless China is hiding something. But we cannot force Xi Jinping to testify at the CDC in Atlanta.
No scientific investigation, however thorough, however rigorous, will ever persuade the ivermectin-and-prayer crowd, they don't believe in science anyway, it is always quibbling with their starkly-colored cartoonish myths about the world and how it works. And sometimes scientists have the gall to question the God-given right of us to scoop every living, edible thing out of the oceans. to cut down every tree, to make every wild place into suburbia.
Corona virus was first discovered in Nth Dakota. On a chicken farm. In 1935.
No-one has decided to lay Bismarck to waste.
"No-one has decided to lay Bismarck to waste."
Well, nobody says it OUT LOUD.
And yes, I know the capitals of both North and South Dakota.
You are a commenter without Pierre.
A person at a place where I work... school sec'ty... says it was a flu. We should not have had to stay home. A million did not die. False reporting (to the tune of 950,000?). I hate it when this happens. Now I have this person I have to deal with who is objectively a moron. I can't not think that about her. I just can't figure out the motivation for the denial... on this and climate change. What do I stand to gain by following the science, besides better health for myself and my Planet? Owning the Cons? I'm just not into it. I have a life to lead, and that's enough for me.
Man, I am so much more fortunate in my school secretary. We trade snide comments on everything from the superintendent's hygiene issues to DJT's stupidity.
They didn't die of Covid, they died from the Covid vaccine. It's obvious, including people who died before the vaccine was in use.
" 'an' independent media doing its job..." Sorry.
Why isn’t anybody questioning the timing of Rosalyn Carter’s (possibly fake news) death, just when creaky old Joe Biden has another inconvenient birthday that he doesn’t want anyone to notice? HENNNNGH?
Easier to get his dog to bite someone.
I KNOW!
I see it all! China pretends to release COVID from an open market, fakes all the dead, as well as all the OTHER dead people in Yurrup, with Joe Biden waiting in the wings! Then they spring it on trump through Fowchee and take over. Dastardly.
How they ever fixed on quiet, earnest Anthony Fauci as the Antichrist will be a fascinating tale for future historians (if any) to investigate. It is like launching a smear campaign against the late Fred Rogers, claiming he was an infiltrator from the Communist International who was sent to spread the word to stop resisting the constant aggression of the USSR.
Exactly. Not to mention they must have known that Trump would fuck things up badly - what with him being a vain, incompetent buffoon and all.
Some other president might have actually come out on top after all that, with a robust strategy to protect his nation and whatnot. Not Trumpy boy though.
They really figured him out.
I was worried he'd do okay, then get reelected. That's what happens with incumbents. But I was appalled when he choked, cuz you know, more death. What an ass. Just think if we'd had a REAL president in there. Gore should have fought; Hillary should have gone to those states; Obama should have exposed the Russian BS; Bernie should have not even tried; Nor Jill. People should have voted.... et cētera. Damn. Things are not going my way.
I believe he was simply too stupid to see it as an opportunity. Not stupid as in low IQ, but stupid as in completely stuck in his own world, where right is wrong and wrong is right. And in this particular instance that made him fail to see that the "right thing to do" would have also benefited him.
What’s this “co-vid” thing Maria is telling us about? Sounds new and scary, and like Biden doesn’t wanna talk about it, but Maria DOES! In-peach! Obviously there is no sense analyzing this fart gas released by Fox News. Wingnuts grilled Dr. Fauci for like a solid year about the “made in a secret evil Wooooooo-Han lab to kill all Trump supporters and allow Biden to win (steal) the election” nonsense. Dr. Fauci did his best to try to limit casualties and contain the spread. It was nearly impossible to stop. Republicans should be ashamed of themselves for how childishly they dealt with the pandemic. First ignoring it and calling it a hoax. Then screaming about how any measures to protect people was tyranny. Then making up 97 lies about the vaccine and about Dr. Fauci, because they needed a human being to represent the pandemic so they could attack someone. Now they want to blame China, or Dems or Joe Biden or Tom Hanks for the virus they didn’t believe existed, and required no safeguards or vaccines. Just fuck off already.
Ta, Liz. She didn't seem all that idiotic before she went to Fox, but she probably was. The deceased roommate called her Bob Schieffer's tension reliever back then.
The slack-jawed gape in the second photo would do the king of slack-jawed gapes, Warren Beatty, proud.