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I should be in the market for a car as my current one is becoming unreliable -- it's basically at the point where I never know if it's going to start. But I don't have money for a gas car let alone an EV. I've been trying to save money, but it's a long, slow process -- I think it's even odds whether my car stops working for good before I have enough for a decent used gas car. Someday I'd like to have an EV, but they're way too expensive right now and likely will be (to me) for several more years, at least. My 2005 car can't last that long. But those of you with EVs, enjoy. Someday when I'm able to get one, I can ask you for recommendations as you'll all be experts by then!

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I'm actively shopping used EVs. They're not cheap! Prices are coming down every month though.

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What about used hybrids? No longer attractive to people?

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Attractive to me. I'm getting the feeling that my little HHR may not be as trusty as the previous one (plus it *is* 14 yrs old) and I'm probably going to be in the market early next year as well. Or, if I wait til I pay off that last repair bill, somewhere around the summer of 2026.

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Not to me personally. They weigh as much as a BEV (2 drivetrains) and have all the complexity of ICE and EV all in one.

Great cars, but we'll go EV and charge from our solar panels.

For many people, a plug-in hybrid is an obvious choice and cuts most of their tailpipe emissions.

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Ta, Dok. Nice times!

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I just won't know what to think about this upliftingly terrible economic news until I hear from Larry Kudlow, or possibly some other economist named Larry.

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I have been very happy with my Volvo XC40 plug-in hybrid…no fuel use in my normal weekly work commute, and we can take longer trips at will. It was a bit of a cop-out I know, but we weren’t quite yet willing to go all-in on electric. But now we have to sell the European spec model when we move back to Yankland…hybrid again or full plug-in?

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I bought my current dwelling in early 2022. If anything, I'm stuck here because my mortgage rates is low, wish is why rent is high, so to borrow from Tay Tay, it's me, I'm the problem.

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Except for the FHA loan I started with (9%), I've never had a fixed rate mortgage, because it would always have cost me more, even if rates started skyrocketing. But they didn't. For most of my refi loan, I paid around 4% give or take. I'm now at 5.6% (~ $11 a month). December is my final payment, if I don't get around to closing it out before then.

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Maybe it's not inflation, but whatever the cause of the cost of living, it sucks for us lower income people.

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We’ve bought a used Nissan Leaf 8 years ago. Unbelievable value. Recommend highly. No annual emissions test. No oil change. Haven’t had to wait in line at a gas station for about 8 years. We paid cash, so no car payments for 8 years either. (It cost $10k used.). We plug it in once a week in our driveway. No measurable increase in our electric bill.

It’s even got good pick up, like all electric cars. Except they call it torque. In a city 0-30 is really the only pick up you need.

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Props for using "skosh" Doc. Haven't seen it or heard it since I was in the Navy (Vietnam) in the mid 1960s.

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I think I picked it up from my 9th grade teacher (in the "s'koshi" form). Years later, without thinking anything of it, I dropped it into a conversation I was having with a Japanese student and he was shocked, shocked! that I knew that word. But yeah, I use it all the time, as needed.

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Have you considered an electric MINI Cooper, Dok?

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I understand how people could feel anxious about the economy in spite of the glowing economic news. I am on my third job this year. Job number two was awesome, enough money to live on, but I was restructured out of that one. Now I am back with a start up, underpaid with promises of sales bonuses, but start up product is...well, buggy and hard to sell. I have a fixed mortgage - so happy, but everything else has increased in price and remains high. I have a huge level of job insecurity which I am sure a lot of Tech, Sales and Marketing people feel. There is a lot of instability in the mid market jobs (I use that phrase loosely, tech people make way more than I do). We always think of the poorest and the richest, but there is definitely a severe instability in between that people (economists?) are missing. As reference, I am not sure if my current job will last through the year. Many people are still struggling

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founding

"WHAR RECESHION??? AH WONT MAH RECESHION!"

-- Larry Kudlow, probably

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That which conservatives wish to be true is the new religion having exceeded the power and reach of all their imagined gods.

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So impeach?

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