The only nice thing about having my flights back to the US cancelled when I was caught in the bullshit in 2016 at Ataturk Airport was that the EU rules required Turkish Airlines to foot the bill for my hotel stay until they could reschedule my flight back. That was nice.
Unfortunately, the hotel chain that is big in Turkey is named "Titanic" and I still wonder why anyone in any country would ever think that is a good idea for a business. I suppose they have different ideas about cursed names in Istanbul.
I won’t be happy until there are significant charges for BRINGING LUGGAGE ON THE PLANE! Sorry to be shouty, but people wag all the crap they can manage on to the plane and it takes forever to get loaded and get the plane off the ground. Make that a fee - $100 a bag, minimum.
The latest for me was from Breeze Airlines. Got an email that was giving 35% off the base price of a ticket. You have no idea what it is until you “build” your ticket. Cabin fee, legroom fee, baggage fee. When it’s over you get about $13 off the price of a $300 ticket. 13/300= 4.3%
My biggest "add on" shock wasn't even a U.S. airline. Canada Air made passengers pay extra if they wanted an actual seat to sit in during the (international) flight. I often wondered whether a passenger would have to sit on the floor or maybe ride in the luggage compartment. I didn't test the theory.
Fun fact: I was a Flight Attendant. I think that they shouldn't charge for checking bags but for dragging those motherfuckers on board. I GET the need for a child seat or a stroller and personal stuff, but I hate to drag that shit on board and feel punished for making it easier to get aloft faster.
But if you think that airlines hate passengers you should see how badly they hate their employees and especially flight attendants. Trust me folks! If they could put vending machines on the plane and not have anyone but the pilots, they would.
Don't get me started on "duty day" (up to 14 hours) AND we had to negotiate a MEAL for so many hours in flight. Like seriously, you've got a 4 day trip with 12 hr layovers (from when the plane pushes back until it makes it to the jetway on the return) and were literally expected to get your own meals all day long. This was in the 1990's! Not that long ago.
It's safe to go back to the bus station. Even better..Trial Rail. That's at least some fun.
Last time I flew was six years ago, and the time before that was something like fifteen years before. My plan is to never fly again - if I can get there within a four day drive, I'm driving. I hate to fly, I love to drive, Mom and Pop motels, a cooler full of club soda and sandwiches, I can bring whatever I want, no jet lag.... Never flying again.
We used to get nice meals on log flights not peanuts and a soda. For all the hype airlines make about themselves flying is just a royal pain in the butt - literally. I would rather drive. At least I know my doors won't fall off. They can do better. Much better.
Airlines can go suck wind. No one is saying that they cannot charge these fees. They're just saying you have to TELL people ahead of time that you are going to charge them. Trust me, a software engineer: The software will adapt probably with AI so the customer can say "I'm a poor and I need to get to Cleveland and yes I can limit my belongings to 20 pounds on the flight and I'll bring my own food" and get back: Airline X, one checked bag, $200 non-stop and Airline Y, one carry-on = $150 but it will take 3 hours". Another customer says "My company is paying for it all so I want food and I don't want to carry on my bag" etc. etc.
Those stupid fees are not considered taxable as income on the airlines' financial statements. That's why they load them on. And so it leads to all those steamer trunks being heaved into the overhead bins on board. Come on people. Demand the airlines stop the b.s.
Oh they are good at making easy things hard to understand — sounds like a threat. Can we do something about bullshit disclaimers as and tos docs where they bury things in?
The only nice thing about having my flights back to the US cancelled when I was caught in the bullshit in 2016 at Ataturk Airport was that the EU rules required Turkish Airlines to foot the bill for my hotel stay until they could reschedule my flight back. That was nice.
Unfortunately, the hotel chain that is big in Turkey is named "Titanic" and I still wonder why anyone in any country would ever think that is a good idea for a business. I suppose they have different ideas about cursed names in Istanbul.
I fly a fair amount, and these changes will be NICE.
And WOW that is condescending to say that passengers can't handle all the information upfront!!
I won’t be happy until there are significant charges for BRINGING LUGGAGE ON THE PLANE! Sorry to be shouty, but people wag all the crap they can manage on to the plane and it takes forever to get loaded and get the plane off the ground. Make that a fee - $100 a bag, minimum.
The latest for me was from Breeze Airlines. Got an email that was giving 35% off the base price of a ticket. You have no idea what it is until you “build” your ticket. Cabin fee, legroom fee, baggage fee. When it’s over you get about $13 off the price of a $300 ticket. 13/300= 4.3%
My biggest "add on" shock wasn't even a U.S. airline. Canada Air made passengers pay extra if they wanted an actual seat to sit in during the (international) flight. I often wondered whether a passenger would have to sit on the floor or maybe ride in the luggage compartment. I didn't test the theory.
Now how about regulations to prevent airlines from going out their way to make flying the most miserable experience possible?
Airlines would charge a fee for the air inside the cabin if they could.
Fun fact: I was a Flight Attendant. I think that they shouldn't charge for checking bags but for dragging those motherfuckers on board. I GET the need for a child seat or a stroller and personal stuff, but I hate to drag that shit on board and feel punished for making it easier to get aloft faster.
But if you think that airlines hate passengers you should see how badly they hate their employees and especially flight attendants. Trust me folks! If they could put vending machines on the plane and not have anyone but the pilots, they would.
Don't get me started on "duty day" (up to 14 hours) AND we had to negotiate a MEAL for so many hours in flight. Like seriously, you've got a 4 day trip with 12 hr layovers (from when the plane pushes back until it makes it to the jetway on the return) and were literally expected to get your own meals all day long. This was in the 1990's! Not that long ago.
It's safe to go back to the bus station. Even better..Trial Rail. That's at least some fun.
Last time I flew was six years ago, and the time before that was something like fifteen years before. My plan is to never fly again - if I can get there within a four day drive, I'm driving. I hate to fly, I love to drive, Mom and Pop motels, a cooler full of club soda and sandwiches, I can bring whatever I want, no jet lag.... Never flying again.
We used to get nice meals on log flights not peanuts and a soda. For all the hype airlines make about themselves flying is just a royal pain in the butt - literally. I would rather drive. At least I know my doors won't fall off. They can do better. Much better.
Airlines can go suck wind. No one is saying that they cannot charge these fees. They're just saying you have to TELL people ahead of time that you are going to charge them. Trust me, a software engineer: The software will adapt probably with AI so the customer can say "I'm a poor and I need to get to Cleveland and yes I can limit my belongings to 20 pounds on the flight and I'll bring my own food" and get back: Airline X, one checked bag, $200 non-stop and Airline Y, one carry-on = $150 but it will take 3 hours". Another customer says "My company is paying for it all so I want food and I don't want to carry on my bag" etc. etc.
Those stupid fees are not considered taxable as income on the airlines' financial statements. That's why they load them on. And so it leads to all those steamer trunks being heaved into the overhead bins on board. Come on people. Demand the airlines stop the b.s.
When right wingers complain Democrats are " anti business " this is what they usually mean.
TBF, the Biscottis on Delta are sorta good.
Oh they are good at making easy things hard to understand — sounds like a threat. Can we do something about bullshit disclaimers as and tos docs where they bury things in?
"Would only cause confusion and frustration.."
Yeah, there's no confusion or frustration when your $125 tickets ends up $249 when you go to pay. These people....