Taxes and overpaid coaches aside, there are (or should be) some real concerns over how all this will play out. Very likely, the rich (i.e., those schools with well-heeled alums and supportive businesses) will do quite well in "paying" their athletes. Not hard to see North Carolina or Duke doing A-OK while Appalachian State and UNC Wilmington may lag. (Is there anyone reading this who believes Alabama and Auburn won't be able to fund plenty of likeness $$$ for plenty of athletes? If so, I'm still selling ocean front property in Bakersfield. I can make you a swell deal. Alabama State? Well.....) Then you have place like Oregon, still flush with Nike money while down the road at Oregon State, you have the Beavs with none. Also to consider: a year at Stanford costs about $66,000. At UC Berkely about $36,000 for in state students. While I can see Alabama supporters shelling out plenty to continue Crimson Turd dominance, I don't see the same happening for large numbers of athletes at Stanford, Cal, UCLA, or Long Beach State or UC Davis.Anyway, WHOSE likenesses will be worthy or whose won't? Hard for me to imagine all 85 scholarship football players at Fresno State benefitting equally. If at all.
I didn't say one word about professors. The faculty are a world apart from the support staff. And you obviously don't live in the Midwest, where all university offices are open 8 to 5 without exception, with a 1-hour lunch break, and many offices don't close over lunch. Then there are evening work obligations, such as advising student clubs, organizing and monitoring student social events, and even the occasional sportsball obligations.
The only non-faculty staff who take 2-hour lunch breaks here are the department heads, and they make their own rules.
sorry but if these kids are accepting money for endorsements, they can afford to pay their own tuition. No more scholarships for player who are employees of subsidized minor league NFL teams. There is no such thing as college athletics anymore. Time to separate sports from education.
Somebody had a whole thread on that last night (went looking for it; of course I can't find it now that I'm looking for it; will get back to you).
I also find it the height of irony that when the publishers finally found an actual doctor to write about that like it was a real problem/issue (it is) -- that doctor was also white.
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Lol. My boss doesn’t work in her campus office 8 hours a day, because she would never get anything done. But she regularly puts in 12 hour days and weekends.
Lecturing professors also have office hours on or off campus, write grants and papers hiding in the library, attend a meeting every other day, and grade papers at night (unless they have mandatory events).
So you're cool with coaches making big money off the labor of mostly black and brown students? I assume you're aware that if a college athlete gets injured in the course of their sport and is no longer able to play, they lose their scholarship and are left with nothing? And you 're aware that in most states, the football and basketball coaches are the highest paid state employees? Or that under existing NCAA rules, the school can sell merchandise with the player's image or license their image to EA for video games, and the student athlete sees exactly none of that money?
It would be lovely to separate sports from education, but since that's not going to happen, I'd rather see the students get something out of the NCAA scam than continuing to let colleges and coaches make huge profits off of other people's unpaid labor.
Taxing financial assistance has been a GOP goal for a while. In my state, partial tuition waivers has been part of the compensation for grad students working on grant supported projects. That offsets some of the low pay they receive for their work, and the tuition assistance is included as a separate cost on grant budgets. Apparently, the GOP wanted to make that taxable in their massive corporate tax money give away in 2017.
So the grad student working part time under various grants while working on a master's or Ph.D. at $12 an hour not only pays tax on that, they also have to pay even more income tax out of that $12 to cover tax on the $10,000 a year they get in tuition assistance. While taking a loan to pay for the additional tuition cost the grant does not cover. Meaning they are likely working on very specialized topics that require special skills for less than the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.
Fortunately, that did not make the final cut in the tax bill, but once a Republican gets their teeth in a way to screw students or other people working hard but barely making it, they keep coming back for another bite.
btw, being from NC, I know Burr has always been an asshole. The word going around about how fair he was as Senate Intelligence Committee chairman, including by ranking Democrat Mark Warner, was bullshit. He stalled, delayed, avoided tackling anything that could damage Trump, and issued reports that revealed nothing except Russia used social media in 2016. There were few hearings, few subpoenas, and nothing of note revealed after almost three years. Basically, it's like a three year study that concluded Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
My wife's ex was tenured faculty at a CSU. At one point, the micromanagers in administration floated a proposal to inisist that faculty work 40 hours a week. There was apparently much amusement and comments like, "Sure! We'll only work 40 hours a week!"
I'm a librarian at a community college. I'm considered faculty. Between prepping to teach workshops and instructional sessions, meetings, professional development, chat reference hours, reference desk time, and college service, I'm working way more than the 40 hours I'm scheduled for.
Taxes and overpaid coaches aside, there are (or should be) some real concerns over how all this will play out. Very likely, the rich (i.e., those schools with well-heeled alums and supportive businesses) will do quite well in "paying" their athletes. Not hard to see North Carolina or Duke doing A-OK while Appalachian State and UNC Wilmington may lag. (Is there anyone reading this who believes Alabama and Auburn won't be able to fund plenty of likeness $$$ for plenty of athletes? If so, I'm still selling ocean front property in Bakersfield. I can make you a swell deal. Alabama State? Well.....) Then you have place like Oregon, still flush with Nike money while down the road at Oregon State, you have the Beavs with none. Also to consider: a year at Stanford costs about $66,000. At UC Berkely about $36,000 for in state students. While I can see Alabama supporters shelling out plenty to continue Crimson Turd dominance, I don't see the same happening for large numbers of athletes at Stanford, Cal, UCLA, or Long Beach State or UC Davis.Anyway, WHOSE likenesses will be worthy or whose won't? Hard for me to imagine all 85 scholarship football players at Fresno State benefitting equally. If at all.
Ta, Stephen.
I didn't say one word about professors. The faculty are a world apart from the support staff. And you obviously don't live in the Midwest, where all university offices are open 8 to 5 without exception, with a 1-hour lunch break, and many offices don't close over lunch. Then there are evening work obligations, such as advising student clubs, organizing and monitoring student social events, and even the occasional sportsball obligations.
The only non-faculty staff who take 2-hour lunch breaks here are the department heads, and they make their own rules.
sorry but if these kids are accepting money for endorsements, they can afford to pay their own tuition. No more scholarships for player who are employees of subsidized minor league NFL teams. There is no such thing as college athletics anymore. Time to separate sports from education.
Somebody had a whole thread on that last night (went looking for it; of course I can't find it now that I'm looking for it; will get back to you).
I also find it the height of irony that when the publishers finally found an actual doctor to write about that like it was a real problem/issue (it is) -- that doctor was also white.
Not if you ask BIll Barr, who did the same.
Senator Klobuchar found out that he was supposed to report some of his investigative findings to the FEC and decided not to do it.
So.
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Lol. My boss doesn’t work in her campus office 8 hours a day, because she would never get anything done. But she regularly puts in 12 hour days and weekends.
Lecturing professors also have office hours on or off campus, write grants and papers hiding in the library, attend a meeting every other day, and grade papers at night (unless they have mandatory events).
gawker forever. also been reading this lovely little website since OTM was here.
And hardly a tomatoface in sight
so, Burr isn't even trying to hide it, is he?
Those were the good old days!
So you're cool with coaches making big money off the labor of mostly black and brown students? I assume you're aware that if a college athlete gets injured in the course of their sport and is no longer able to play, they lose their scholarship and are left with nothing? And you 're aware that in most states, the football and basketball coaches are the highest paid state employees? Or that under existing NCAA rules, the school can sell merchandise with the player's image or license their image to EA for video games, and the student athlete sees exactly none of that money?
It would be lovely to separate sports from education, but since that's not going to happen, I'd rather see the students get something out of the NCAA scam than continuing to let colleges and coaches make huge profits off of other people's unpaid labor.
Taxing financial assistance has been a GOP goal for a while. In my state, partial tuition waivers has been part of the compensation for grad students working on grant supported projects. That offsets some of the low pay they receive for their work, and the tuition assistance is included as a separate cost on grant budgets. Apparently, the GOP wanted to make that taxable in their massive corporate tax money give away in 2017.
So the grad student working part time under various grants while working on a master's or Ph.D. at $12 an hour not only pays tax on that, they also have to pay even more income tax out of that $12 to cover tax on the $10,000 a year they get in tuition assistance. While taking a loan to pay for the additional tuition cost the grant does not cover. Meaning they are likely working on very specialized topics that require special skills for less than the minimum wage of $7.25 an hour.
Fortunately, that did not make the final cut in the tax bill, but once a Republican gets their teeth in a way to screw students or other people working hard but barely making it, they keep coming back for another bite.
btw, being from NC, I know Burr has always been an asshole. The word going around about how fair he was as Senate Intelligence Committee chairman, including by ranking Democrat Mark Warner, was bullshit. He stalled, delayed, avoided tackling anything that could damage Trump, and issued reports that revealed nothing except Russia used social media in 2016. There were few hearings, few subpoenas, and nothing of note revealed after almost three years. Basically, it's like a three year study that concluded Japan bombed Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941.
My wife's ex was tenured faculty at a CSU. At one point, the micromanagers in administration floated a proposal to inisist that faculty work 40 hours a week. There was apparently much amusement and comments like, "Sure! We'll only work 40 hours a week!"
I'm a librarian at a community college. I'm considered faculty. Between prepping to teach workshops and instructional sessions, meetings, professional development, chat reference hours, reference desk time, and college service, I'm working way more than the 40 hours I'm scheduled for.
Tax the ad income, not the scholarships. Also, tax the rich like we did in the 60's. Call it the "Pay This Tax and We Won't Eat You Tax".