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codewalker's avatar

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Alex's avatar

He’s definitely gonna get that dough from a Russian oligarch

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Greg's avatar

"This has been a blog post about your good-for-nothing piece of shit deadbeat dad."

You knew him?

He was a felon, so we all grew up dirt poor cuz he couldn't find a job ever. Led me to commit a bunch of felonies when I was young, because many poor kids, even white ones like me, take up a life of crime after a hard childhood. I was angry and violent, liked kicking the shit out of people and was headed for a prison term myself. The one time I almost got caught the DA didn't prosecute because no one would testify against me.

Difference between me and my dad? I never got caught and then was able to reform myself (thanks LSD!) and changed my life. Now I'm a software engineer cuz even tho I was a fucked up kid I was always good at math.

The fruit don't fall far from the tree I guess. This one managed to pick itself and move away tho.

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Zyxomma's avatar

Ta, Evan. The grift goes on.

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eddi-SABH's avatar

‘No documentary evidence’ supports Trump’s claim it is ‘impossible’ to secure bond for $464 million civil fraud penalty: NY Attorney General "Fan’s letter continued: “As far as the Court can infer, sureties may have refused to accept defendants’ specific holdings as collateral because using Mr. Trump’s real estate will generally need “a property appraisal’ … and his holdings are not nearly as valuable as defendants claim.” https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/no-documentary-evidence-supports-trumps-claim-it-is-impossible-to-secure-bond-for-464-million-civil-fraud-penalty-ny-attorney-general/?ICID=ref_fark

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Revenant's avatar

You mean that incontinently inflating real estate values when convenient and then poor-mouthing them for tax purposes is NOT just a bit of a laugh, just part of the Monopoly game of life, and there can actually be real-life consequences for creative accounting practices? That people might come to distrust you when you're out hawking your magic beans?

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Pixeloid's avatar

Such a mystery how this self-proclaimed multi-billionaire can't come up with a few hundred million.

Hope they start seizing his properties right away, but they'll probably have trouble selling those old, ugly, substandard, vermin infested, trash palaces.

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Free beach's avatar

Vlad will bail him out. They want to win this election.

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Darth Trad's avatar

Until we find that the actual owners are the people who lent him money. And are still owed that money. He's the cheapest bastard that ever lived.

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Melissa's avatar

Lying and grifting is no way to go through life. But he did it cause he's so much smarter than everybody else. chocolate candy bar with caramel and peanuts

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Always Be Ithacating's avatar

"Fraud Ouroboros" would fit nicely within an ouroboros graphic on Trump's tombstone.

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Daniel O'Riordan's avatar

We'll never see Trump's tombstone. He'll have to be buried in an undisclosed location to avoid vandalism.

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eddi-SABH's avatar

Look for a New Jersey rest stop with a new rest room after his demise. Especially if Chris Christie travels there frequently.

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John Thorstensen's avatar

I've been seeing that phrase and wondering where it came from. "Ouroboros" is apparently the snake eating its own tail symbol -- can someone fill me in on why it's suddenly so current? My inquiring mind wants to know!

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Always Be Ithacating's avatar

I have a vague idea it has something to do with recent events in the crypto world, but I have a strict policy against spending a single second learning about that.

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Mike's avatar

I think the reason people can't figure out Trump is that he isn't a business man or politician or Mob boss or billionaire he is a performer. He has several schticks, one for his rallies, one for his interviews and so forth. He tries to be funny, then threatening and then bombastic. He has tried his schticks in various endeavors and always fails. But he finally found a willing audience desperate in their need for a leader to tell them that they know the truth and their prejudices were right along. Unfortunately fame became a white hot spot light on his life of cheap crimes. If he would have stayed in Queens fucking over contractors and dodging his bills he would have been fine.

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John Thorstensen's avatar

That's very perceptive. The Irish critic Fintan O'Toole had a piece in the New York Review of Books saying that Trump's schtick has a lot in common with comedy -- unfunny to us, of course, but his core audience eats it up.

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Mike's avatar

As I watched Trump over the years it seemed to that his public appearances are his version of stand-up. As you said only the true believers get the jokes. Problem is that too many don't understand his performance and think it is command to take action or a threat. But he knows that and uses which misperception is to his advantage.

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simpledinosaur's avatar

Yes. He is a tawdry, small-minded man who ended up playing on a world-historical stage. The results haven't been pretty.

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codewalker's avatar

Also a problem in the buy back scenario, upstream.

If a buyer has an inkling that the Supreme Court is going to reverse all of this and return every property to trump, what will someone pay for a property that suddenly is handed back to trump?

The new owner would have clear title to any real estate, so the Supreme Court would be stepping in and saying: "your title is void, it belongs to trump."

What's the jilted buyers recourse: sue. Sue who? The State of NY. How long is that going to take? A couple of years, so anyone has to factor in they part with their millions, and may have to wait years to get that back. Any interest being sued for? Any lost opportunity?

Considering property investment of say $100,000,000. Your choice: get a farm field on the outskirts of a growing area and build 200 houses, return 20% in two years, or buy a trump building, spend $17,000,000 in court costs, and get make no return.

Buyers will want bargain basement prices for assuming that much risk. I'd guess 25c on the dollar, from a legitimate appraisal.

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Peon's avatar

And that's assuming the properties aren't leveraged to the hilt, with lenders already in line to get paid.

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Oblio's Cap's avatar

Have his rugrats paid their share yet?

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

Oh that's rich. Paid their share? It gets funnier the more I think about it.

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John Norris's avatar

Among others, PAB tried getting a loan from Scrooge McDuck and Smaug of Dale.

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ellison's avatar

They're both clearly too classy to do business with him!

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

Is that the same Scrooge McDuck that used to run late-night car ads in the the Pittsville/Doomtown/Tricolor area?

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Mike_Cramer's avatar

“… it will have a chilling effect on people who do business in New York”

Because the last thing our country can afford is to inconvenience profiteers. 🙄

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Oblio's Cap's avatar

He fucking developed the NYC skyline.

Singlehandedly!

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John Thorstensen's avatar

Great Assets at Fire Sale prices, you might say.

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Lady MS's avatar

Well, if lifelong scammers, grifters, deadbeats, dodgers & cheats are looking over their shoulders, America should be sleeping more soundly tonight right, you BAB?

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Staramour's avatar

Don't the "bedrock principals" work at the schools that Pebbles and BamBam go to?

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Oblio's Cap's avatar

Got rocks?

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

It's a place right out of history.

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Mike_Cramer's avatar

I’m still waiting for the rug to get pulled out from underneath us.

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

I'm waiting for the other shoe to drop, unless Dad's too drunk to take it off.

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John Thorstensen's avatar

I'm waiting for the chickens to come home to roost.

They have a coop.

They organized it to combine their purchasing power and get good deals on their feed.

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

There is power in a collective.

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SterWonk's avatar

> it will have a chilling effect on people who do business in New York because it could happen to anyone

Yes, anyone who flagrantly breaks the law for decades might -- eventually -- be punished. Not gonna lie, I'm okay with anyone for whom that is a legitimate concern, deciding not to do business there. (Or anywhere.)

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

Like the locals give a fuck what this buffoon says. New Yorkers gonna New York. I guess, never been there (maybe someday).

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SterWonk's avatar

I won't claim to have a ton of experience there, but I've averaged probably a week per year in NYC for over a decade. The areas my brother and his family have taken us, have always seemed fine.

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Horizontal Jones's avatar

Drove through it summer 1978, 70 mph for over an hour. Gave me perspective. I'd love to visit NYNY in detail someday. Certainly nothing against the people, just the stereotypes the media presents that form most folks' ideas.

True Story: my mom had a friend who knew an elderly Jewish couple who lived in Kansas City. Raina, the wife, was suprised to learn that we had TV. 1974.

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