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ziggywiggy's avatar

Thank you Robyn, excellent writing. You helped clarify things with the timeline, you can't make something better if you don't understand it. Here's hoping it reaches the people who need to hear it.

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>> at no point did anyone back then publicly wonder or wring their hands about “Is the patriarchy going too far?” Rather, then, as now, most public discussion was about what was wrong with the girls who were doing this, not the men who produced it. <<

Totally get what you mean, Robyn. Of course feminists were saying patriarchy had gone way the fuck too far, but there were no major broadcast or print outlets that were willing to follow feminists there.

Tis always a puzzlement to me how the fuckfaces think feminism has gone too far when we still haven't arrested all the priests and pastors we know raped kids before the year 2000. And how big is our rape kit testing backlog? And how many of those tests are so degraded they'll never produce evidence? And remember that Netflix drama-based-on-real-life "Unbelievable"? That shit happened right in my neck of the woods after the year 2000 and didn't get sorted out until, what, 2018? And the government still hasn't apologized to Marie Adler. She accepted a monetary settlement and that was the best she was going to get.

We haven't reached a point where rape investigations reliably include basic tests or governments take responsibility for prosecuting victims instead of attackers, but we've already gone "too far."

Fuck the fucking fucks.

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