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Crip Dyke's avatar

Thank you so much for the update, Robyn. I had gotten almost all of this info from other sources because I've been following this one, but even for me there were a few bits of new info.

Can I also say that I absolutely **hate** Catholic hospitals? I get that religious hospitals are going to exist in this world for a long, long time to come, but they don't have to fuck patients over to maintain their own sense of sacred superiority. If you're going to take money for practicing medicine, then practice fucking medicine, not apologetics.

This bullshit about delaying care because the patient had spoken a word that the hospital doesn't like is superhumanly bad.

>> Again, the doctors at that very hospital already told her that it was a nonviable pregnancy. What did they want to happen? Did they want her to just keep carrying a nonviable fetus until something bad actually did happen to her? <<

Well, I am not those doctors, Robyn, but it sure as fuck seemed like what they wanted was an apology from Watts for using the wrong word and a promise never to ever say that the hospital had taken part in an abortion. The ENTIRE dust up was about "abortion" vs. "induction", which, as you explain, is the same goddamn thing in this case. The only difference here is language. The Catholics have a Pope-given safeword and Watts didn't use it, so they weren't going to save her life or provide her care until Watts passed her catechism class.

This is bullshit, and if Catholic hospitals want a fucking shibboleth for accessing health care, I suggest,"single payer," and they can fucking dry up and die when their protective bubble bursts.

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Okey-Dokey, this is a trigger story for me.

My not-then-yet wife and I went through this over New Year's, 1995.

There was never any talk of charges. Our baby did die. Because at that 19-21 weeks stage, they don't have lungs yet. And they develop lungs by inhaling and exhaling amniotic fluid; so if that's all gone, that ain't gonna happen.

Our issue wasn't a malevolent nurse but a malevolent perinatologist. It wasn't a Catholic hospital, but it had been before being bought up by a non-religious hospital chain.

Otherwise there are many similarities.

When I get to The Bad Place to spend eternity, I'mma find that perinatologist and kick 'im in the 'nards. And I'll look out for this nurse on Ms. Watts' behalf, and I'll hold her for her.

Not going to continue the tale because it shreds me to this day and I have stuff to get done.

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