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I was eating a bowl of cheerios and I got to thinking about how many people worked to get it to me. At the most basic level there’s the farm of course that grew the grain, but even to get to that point there has to be people who work for the government that guarantee its right to the land, the real estate agents that facilitate the transaction, the banks that loan the money to the farm so it can buy not only the land but seeds and tractors, the fertilizer companies and the water districts, the factories that build the water pipes and sprinkler heads, the people at the John Deere factory and all the vendors that sell the factory the steel and nuts and bolts and tires and wires, the engineers that designed the tractor, the middle men that buy the grain and transport it and store it in a silo until a train can come pick it up and take it to the mill, the markets that sell the contracts that ensure the grain can be delivered intact and on time, the people that build and drive the train, then all the people that work in the mill to grind up the grain and mix it with eggs and water and salt and yeast and bake it, and qc it, and the government inspectors that make sure it doesn’t have ecoli, then the people that package it, and sell it, and account for the money from the sale, then put it on a truck, which first requires people that build the truck and supply it with fuel, and the drivers that drive it to grocery stores, which are designed by architects and built by project managers and carpenters and masons and roofers and laborers and plumbers and electricians, and the people that unload the truck and stock the shelves and bag the groceries and run the cash registers, oh and also the mint that mints the money I use to buy the cheerios, or really the people that work in the bank that processes my credit card, then I put it in a bag which has to be manufactured, then I put the bag in my car which also came out of a factory and requires fuel and maintenance, and I drive it home, then I add milk which also comes from a farm and a distribution center and a store and is kept fresh by electricity which requires a huge workforce to keep humming, and government regulators to keep the whole process of supplying electricity safe, and refrigerators also built in factories to keep the milk fresh, and not to mention the roads and traffic laws and stop lights that keep the trucks moving and me safe driving home, then also the people that built my kitchen table and chairs and the people that manufactured the bowl and the spoon, also the builder that built my house so I have a safe warm (or in my case cool) place to eat, which encompasses all the people that worked to get the components of my house to the jobsite, and performed all the labor to turn those components into a house, and a thousand other people doing a thousand other jobs that I forgot about. Anyway the point is we are all dependent on each other in a million different ways, all day every day. I’m guessing at least 100,000 different people played some part in getting me my dinner. SO that’s what I was thinking about while eating my cheerios…

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I grew up on welfare. Dysfunctional family. I remember when I paid $0 Federal and State Income Tax. Just Employment Tax. It sucked. Why? Because I didn't have any money.

Now I make what is to me a lot of money. It's a bit tricky to calculate, because all my money comes through my LLC, so a lot of things most people consider to be personal expenses are actually my employer's expense; and my employer is...me.

But, now I pay a lot of Federal and State Income Tax.

And it's GREAT! I mean, FUCKING AWESOME!!!!

How could that be?

Because I only pay tax on money I earn. And after taxes, I have so much more money than I ever had back when I paid no taxes. That's what matters. How much money one ends up with, not how much one starts out with.

It's really that simple. And everyone knows it. That's why these conversations get so stupid so fast, with rodeo clowns like Arthur Laffer trying to convince people that if we tax the rich less, we'll all have more money. Stupid on the face of it. But it does muddy the waters, and that's the only way to con people into not taxing the people who benefit the most from our system.

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